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Walther P38 Spreewerke Serial Numbers

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Walther P38 Spreewerke Serial NumbersP38 Cyq Manufacture Dates

Hi Shooter13, Just an FYI, the serial numbers on the frame and slide are not in the original locations. It appears the gun has been heavily buffed, removing the old markings and then remarked. The E/359 is the waffenamt for Walther and only appeared on cyqs on very low serial numbered guns made in 1942. Your's, being an 'x' block (assuming that is the original serial number) would have been made in late 1944. Here is a link to one of my cyqs so you can see the location of the original numbering. Spreewerk magazines were never serial numbered when originally made so those numbers were likely applied post-war.

I'm not being critical, just thought you should know, in case you didn't already. Regards, Leon.

Besides the WWII guns, Walther switched to an aluminum framed gun designated the P-1 when they. The science of Walther P-38 serial numbers is very subtle and. Jan 01, 2011 Spreewerk P.38 Date/Serial Help. P.38s I have seen sport a four-digit serial number. That this might signify the grips were manufactured by Walther.

The serial number is 246 ( the x value is the last digit of the serial # I was excluding in first post.ie not an x block ).and my source is a book that I have, in particular: Standard Catalog of Military Firearms The Collectors Price and Reference Guide 3rd edition by Ned Schwing published by Gun Digest Books ISBN 0-87349-902-6 mid right side of page# 126 (under Spreewerke Military) quote. 'cyq' (1st variation) The first 500 of these guns have the eagle over 359 on some small parts and command a premium. Value depends on markings and an expert should be consulted for values. Top of page# 127 (same book ) has a picture of an example slide with markings in identical positions to my firearm as shown in the picture. I have also read ( internet ) that the rectangular firing pins were found only in the early low serial number ranges. Both magazines are numbered with 246 on the bottom front and the eagle over 359 appears on both of the magazines spine.

The serial number 246 appears again on the locking block under the barrel. An eagle over a circled swastika and the eagle over 359 appear on the slide above the grips on the other side of the slide ( not shown in the pic ). (Also not shown in the pic ) is the last two digits of the serial number (46) on the widest part of the trigger guard. This is where I got my info.could you please quote your source so that I can verify your information. PS: Found this document.

Hi Shooter13, I have the same Standard Catalog that you quote and if you look carefully at the position of the numbers, they are not in the same location. On your gun, the slide serial number is below the 'cyq' stamp, on the Standard Catatlog (SC) gun it is right above the slide lock lever, further to the rear. Download Aplikasi Whatsapp Untuk Hp Sony Ericsson Xperia X8. The position of the frame serial number on your gun is immediately below the slide in a milled recessed area. On the SC gun, the number is on the rail that is in line with the trigger axle pin. Your gun has a late variation frame with the reinforement hump where the trigger axle pin goes through the frame.

The one in the SC is an early frame without that hump. That hump started being used in mid 1943.

Rectangular firing pins were only used on very early Walther zero series and very early HP P.38s. Nothing made after mid 1940 will have a rectangular firing pin if it is an original gun. No cyq was produced with a rectangular firing pin. Walther is the only maker to serialize magazines and they stopped that in early 1942. Very early cyqs (serial number below 500 and with an early frame) will typically have some Walther (E/359) inspected small parts. There might be a very occasional one after that but it is not the norm and certainly, by about serial number 1000, it would be exceedingly rare to find one.

Spreewerk's waffenamt number was '88' so that is typically what you will find in certain places on the gun. E/359 marked mags were made at Walther and wouldn't have been issued in a cyq, in fact, Walther had stopped serial numbering mags by the time cyqs were starting to be made. I have collected and studied P.38s for 20 years and am a moderator on the P.38 Forum. I certainly don't know it all and haven't seen it all but some things should fall into place when you see an original gun and I don't really see that on your's. If you would like to provide a good picture of the head of the firing pin, I would happy to address that.